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MADDOG
Ireland
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Posted - 02/10/2012 : 10:23:49
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For planning purposes... To date, the KCBS has scheduled the following events in the NW for 2012. With both the PNWBA and KCBS calender providing more than before, conflicts are inevitable. (Sites of PNWBA comps conflicting with these follow each in parenthesis.)
May 25-27 North Bend, OR near Coos Bay June 30-July 1 Meridian, ID near Boise -- (Mill City) July 14-15 Nanaimo, BC on Vancouver Island -- (Cheney & Florence) July 21-22 Snohomish, WA Kla Ha Ya Days
Aug 15 & 16 Billings, MT, Montana St BBQ @ MT Fair [Yes, it really is Wed & Thrs] Sept 1 & 2 Calgary, Alberta, Barbecue on the Bow -- (Juarez) Sept 2-3 Suquamish, WA, Grill for a Grand, Clearwater Casino, near Poulsbo Sept 7-8 Coquille, OR west of Roseburg, Smoke on the Water -- (Selah) Sept 14-15 Idaho Falls, ID north of Pocatello, Smoke on the Snake -- (Langley)
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Pat "Maddog" Maddock PNWBA Secretary 2013-14 CBJ#200412 KCBS#60627 Webers, Traegers and a magic, translucent Thermapen MADDOG'S BBQ Don't try to teach a pig to sing. It will frustrate you, annoy the pig and delay the damned BBQ! |
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Smokin Nations
USA
188 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2012 : 11:04:10
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Sanctioning request for North Bend, OR will go in to KCBS next week. Sisters, OR is basically the same weekend as Meridian, ID is June 30- July 1, and the Boise Music Festival should be the week after (awaiting confirmation from Teresa). Nanalimo, BC has 4 Reps scheduled (wow), must be expecting over 100 contestants. John |
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MADDOG
Ireland
789 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2012 : 12:11:34
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John, I assume the Nanaimo reps are just because they are two married couples. It's an aggressive event they have scheduled up there but I can't imagine that it would get to be anywhere near that size. Speaking of aggressive events, you ought to see what the folks at the sponsoring Clearwater Casino at Suquamish (Poulsbo, WA) have up their sleeve for this year. They've really stepped up sponsorship and side events - wow - they are asking us what we want out of a list of many. The host's support was excellent last year but he's pulling out all the stops this year. I'm going to cook Juarez Canyon on Aug 31/Sep 1 then spend the night at home near Tacoma and head over to Poulsbo for the Sept 2-3 event at Suquamish, the next day...won't miss it. We're anxious to head down to Coos Bay for your event, too. Beautiful piece of the world you have down there and we don't get there enough. Here's a perfect excuse! Thanks for working it.
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Pat "Maddog" Maddock PNWBA Secretary 2013-14 CBJ#200412 KCBS#60627 Webers, Traegers and a magic, translucent Thermapen MADDOG'S BBQ Don't try to teach a pig to sing. It will frustrate you, annoy the pig and delay the damned BBQ! |
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JD McGee
USA
1444 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2012 : 23:57:14
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There are a couple here we are considering... June 3 - July 1 Meridian, Idaho (near Boise) Sept 2-3 Suquamish, WA (near Poulsbo) |
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Smokin Nations
USA
188 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2012 : 10:41:19
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North Bend is a Sat/Sun contest, but teams can set up Fri morning and sell samples from 12-4. Samples can be precooked. How many teams are interested?
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MADDOG
Ireland
789 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2012 : 13:34:43
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| JD We would enjoy going to Boise for both the Ribfest and the Music Fest the next weekend but that next weekend is also Chehalis, which we never miss. Poulsbo was good last year but it's gonna rock this year. The host is adding all sorts of stuff, side comps, etc. They also added a big name sponsor for this year and the guy who runs the event, Roy Swift, is a first class gent who absolutely caters to us. We won't miss that one... in fact, we are planning to cook Juarez Canyon on Fri-Sat. Then spending Sat night at our house and heading up to Poulsbo for Sunday - Monday. We like both of those comps and it's not really an "ironman" weekend if you get to spend a night in your own bed right in the middle of it. |
Pat "Maddog" Maddock PNWBA Secretary 2013-14 CBJ#200412 KCBS#60627 Webers, Traegers and a magic, translucent Thermapen MADDOG'S BBQ Don't try to teach a pig to sing. It will frustrate you, annoy the pig and delay the damned BBQ! |
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MADDOG
Ireland
789 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2012 : 20:05:14
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I've been talking with the organizer of the Nanaimo KCBS event July 14-15. Don't register just yet. They are make a huge change. In their sponsorship agreement, they bowed to Thrifty Foods and required all cooks to order and purchase all meats from their sponsoring stores, up there. Today, they eliminated that requirement. We may bring our meats from our own chosen sources. They will only require us to use Thrifty meats for the people's choice sampling and they will provide that to us (Wings and Butt) gratis. I could tell you more about why I've chosen to participate but I'm not about to, in effect, campaign against the Cheney competition. I didn't do Cheney last year but I heard it was super and I'm sure it will be even better this year! |
Pat "Maddog" Maddock PNWBA Secretary 2013-14 CBJ#200412 KCBS#60627 Webers, Traegers and a magic, translucent Thermapen MADDOG'S BBQ Don't try to teach a pig to sing. It will frustrate you, annoy the pig and delay the damned BBQ! |
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swamprb
USA
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Posted - 02/24/2012 : 20:40:06
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The Boise Music Fest couldn't make a 25 team Qualifier last year. R&Q won GC and a Jack bung because it was the ONLY Idaho event.
If the Suquamish event was a SAT/SUN comp, I would be there and support it in the future, but Monday Holiday ferry rides and freeway drives will keep me away.
No conflicts here.
Think about this for a minute- The pulse I got from a lot of Canadian teams I talked to the last couple years at Whistler and Langley was they were "hobby cookers" and Whistler was the BIG Deal and an expensive event with little payout, but it was their contest they looked forward to every season. In 2010 when the Markets had THREE $10,000 events near the border, very few CDN teams participated and none of the events were Qualifiers. With Angie's two events and Dave & Waynes cooks with big $$, I'm wondering if the Nanaimo event will draw the teams they seek?
Here we go with another KCBS info trickle down>>>>
I would suggest the organizers themselves post in the Non-PNWBA Events Forum for Cooks & Judges with links to their respective events if they want to ensure a successful contest in the Northwest.
We have KCBS BOD member Dave Compton watching and adding to our Forum, so maybe the KCBS Reps working these events would do themselves and the organizers a service to all to see how we work around here.
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waynef
Canada
566 Posts |
Posted - 02/27/2012 : 23:09:35
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| I was going to cook in the Nanaimo contest but its a little rich for my blood not sure how many teams they will be able to attract. Not sure what the ferry costs are from the States to the Vancouver Island but I am sure it is not cheap. |
Wayne Fettback Mad Cow Barbeque http://www.madcowbbq.com |
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jonesyjm
USA
289 Posts |
Posted - 02/28/2012 : 09:21:07
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quote: Originally posted by waynef
I was going to cook in the Nanaimo contest but its a little rich for my blood not sure how many teams they will be able to attract. Not sure what the ferry costs are from the States to the Vancouver Island but I am sure it is not cheap.
They sent me an email saying that they are lowering the entrance fee for this event.
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MADDOG
Ireland
789 Posts |
Posted - 02/28/2012 : 13:15:07
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Yep, they dropped reg to $225 and have REMOVED the requirement that we use only meats purchased through their sponsoring grocery chain. THAT is a HUGE change...for the better! The organizer is shadowing a KCBS event I believe this weekend, down south and then we'll be seeing more info on the Nanaimo event. Although their website (constantly under revision - so far) is Nanaimobbqfest.com The organizers have a real "bend over backwards" attitude, are prepared to adjust to our needs/requests and are bustin' butt to make it a great event. I'm very encouraged from multiple contacts with the organizers. I'm not here to promote the event. Once the fine tuning is complete, I believe you will see promotion. I'm here to talk about it and share my opinion about what I've seen evolve as of late. |
Pat "Maddog" Maddock PNWBA Secretary 2013-14 CBJ#200412 KCBS#60627 Webers, Traegers and a magic, translucent Thermapen MADDOG'S BBQ Don't try to teach a pig to sing. It will frustrate you, annoy the pig and delay the damned BBQ! |
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steve6224
Canada
112 Posts |
Posted - 02/28/2012 : 13:43:11
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| I too was put off by the meat supply conditions and the entry fee and so now that those may have changed I may reconsider. Looking forward to seeing more info |
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Rookie48
USA
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Posted - 02/28/2012 : 17:12:25
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Hopefully we'll see more organizers thinking about KCBS contests in PNW land. And maybe if we can get more KCBS comps then Sams MIGHT re-think things next year on contest placement.
Again, this is only my opionion not the Board's. |
Dave Compton KCBS Master CBJ # 22569 KCBS Board Member / Judges' Advocate Proud member of a drinking club with a BBQ problem. |
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MADDOG
Ireland
789 Posts |
Posted - 02/28/2012 : 21:07:03
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Wayne, my SUV pulling my comp trailer will run right at $100 each way on the Pt Angeles - Victoria ferry.
nanaimobbqfest.com Keep an eye on it. It's evolving...for the better!
Follow on Twitter: nanaimo bbq fest
I don't know if they are gonna pack in the teams or not either but I have been wanting to revisit that beautiful island for several years now. I like to go compete where I would otherwise want to be, a nice, shaded park outside of Mollala, Oregon, the Coos Bay area, Sisters, even a big grassy park and wooded RV park on the river outside of Chehalis. I honestly am not a fan of parking lots but I understand that's what we often have to deal with. So, when I get a chance to compete someplace I would like to go even without the comp, I'm all over it. Vancouver Island and the quaint town of Nanaimo, here I come! |
Pat "Maddog" Maddock PNWBA Secretary 2013-14 CBJ#200412 KCBS#60627 Webers, Traegers and a magic, translucent Thermapen MADDOG'S BBQ Don't try to teach a pig to sing. It will frustrate you, annoy the pig and delay the damned BBQ! |
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waynef
Canada
566 Posts |
Posted - 02/28/2012 : 21:54:57
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| Pat my cost was about 130 each way plus hotel costs plus a $300 entry fee. Contest was just going to be to expensive this year planning a trip to Compete in Alaska so gotta watch my pennies. |
Wayne Fettback Mad Cow Barbeque http://www.madcowbbq.com |
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jonesyjm
USA
289 Posts |
Posted - 02/28/2012 : 22:07:00
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quote: Originally posted by MADDOG
Wayne, my SUV pulling my comp trailer will run right at $100 each way on the Pt Angeles - Victoria ferry.
nanaimobbqfest.com Keep an eye on it. It's evolving...for the better!
Follow on Twitter: nanaimo bbq fest
I don't know if they are gonna pack in the teams or not either but I have been wanting to revisit that beautiful island for several years now. I like to go compete where I would otherwise want to be, a nice, shaded park outside of Mollala, Oregon, the Coos Bay area, Sisters, even a big grassy park and wooded RV park on the river outside of Chehalis. I honestly am not a fan of parking lots but I understand that's what we often have to deal with. So, when I get a chance to compete someplace I would like to go even without the comp, I'm all over it. Vancouver Island and the quaint town of Nanaimo, here I come!
Right On My Man I Feel The Same Way and will be there with you, if it just me and you we can always just split the pot.  |
James Jones Smokey's Bar-B-Que Semi Pro BBQ Pitmaster "A Broken Man Seeking the Lords Face will find Salvation" Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/#!/SmokeysQue Cell: 206-786-0082 Email: james@smokeysbarbque.com |
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MADDOG
Ireland
789 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2012 : 04:25:34
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Understood, Wayne. (Alaska - wow! Good for you, baby!) Do note, however, that they are now only charging $225 for registration. Most everything they are doing is moving in the right direction. I'm continuing to hope for the best.
Now, as for you Mr Jones. Yeah, I'd split it with ya but you always seem to get the "upper split" (chuckle)! I do know that there will be some local teams in the mix, according to Alison up there, and you just never know what KCBS teams will come out of the woods. Although they do have the (evolving) web site up, I think when she returns from the KCBS event she's visiting down south (I believe this weekend) we'll see the ball begin to roll rapidly. I don't know if she's been your contact thus far or not but she's a very nice gal and VERY fired up about doing this right. |
Pat "Maddog" Maddock PNWBA Secretary 2013-14 CBJ#200412 KCBS#60627 Webers, Traegers and a magic, translucent Thermapen MADDOG'S BBQ Don't try to teach a pig to sing. It will frustrate you, annoy the pig and delay the damned BBQ! |
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The "EH" Team
Canada
72 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2012 : 20:12:26
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I will be there in Nanaimo! No splitz! I will take some side bets! Bob |
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JD McGee
USA
1444 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2012 : 20:49:34
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No can do Nanaimo...same weekend as Cheney... Can do North Bend...Rhana's Birthday weekend!  Meridian is still on our radar too... Planning to do Suquamish still...
Thanks for the updates Pat!  |
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MADDOG
Ireland
789 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2012 : 08:35:37
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| Dave (Rookie48) Good to have you in the mix, here. If you haven't already, you're bound to discover that most of us cooking around here are BIG believers in the PNWBA. The array and diversity of quality events throughout our limited season, we think, is impressive, especially being well outside of the traditional geographic hubs of competition BBQ. Weather here is another issue we deal with. Frankly, we don't plan to take a back seat to anyone. Having KCBS sanctioning in this same geographic area is, to many of us, a real good thing and as you see, we participate. I really should note that I'm speaking only for myself in ALL of this but coexistance can serve to improve, broaden and further, quality competition BBQ in the great NW. Bigger and better in the near future? You bet. It's welcome. But know that the association out front, in these parts, has and likely will continue to be the PNWBA. Huge loyalty. Great participation. Growing. Advanced and advancing in many areas and the quality of leadership we have and do enjoy goes far to make the future bright. Bluntly, a lot of us welcome more KCBS involvement hereabouts. We enjoy the competition format and we've thoroughly enjoyed some wonderful event reps. (It'll be hard to replace Monihan!) Any contributions you wish to make, I'm betting will be appreciated. Again, I'm speaking for myself but as you meet more and more, you'll find Northwesterners are damned hard to beat when it comes to just damned fine folks! |
Pat "Maddog" Maddock PNWBA Secretary 2013-14 CBJ#200412 KCBS#60627 Webers, Traegers and a magic, translucent Thermapen MADDOG'S BBQ Don't try to teach a pig to sing. It will frustrate you, annoy the pig and delay the damned BBQ! |
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upnsmokin
USA
75 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2012 : 11:53:45
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James, i disagree with your outlook on PNWBA teams. I dont think of PNWBA as the minor league to kcbs or any other association. There are many teams within the PNWBA that compete on a regular basis and beat the best of the best kcbs has to offer. I do agree that going to some of the larger kcbs contests can show a team how they stack up against the best out there but that is because big money brings big teams. I know of a dozen teams within the PNWBA that have beat the so called pro pitmasters and can do it at any contest on any weekend. I for one welcome all the kcbs boys and girls to come play in our sandbox and we will be happy to show them how we do it up here. Just my 2 cents! UPNSMOKIN Custom Smoked Meats |
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Suzannie
USA
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Posted - 03/02/2012 : 12:37:50
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quote: Originally posted by upnsmokin
James, i disagree with your outlook on PNWBA teams. I dont think of PNWBA as the minor league to kcbs or any other association. There are many teams within the PNWBA that compete on a regular basis and beat the best of the best kcbs has to offer. I do agree that going to some of the larger kcbs contests can show a team how they stack up against the best out there but that is because big money brings big teams. I know of a dozen teams within the PNWBA that have beat the so called pro pitmasters and can do it at any contest on any weekend. I for one welcome all the kcbs boys and girls to come play in our sandbox and we will be happy to show them how we do it up here. Just my 2 cents! UPNSMOKIN Custom Smoked Meats
I am not saying that we do not have worrld class BBQ Pitmasters within the PNWBA or that those same cooks can not compete at a high level on the KCBS stage. Here's an example.... Take the Seattle Mariners and their triple A affiliate Everett Aquasox, if you talk to any one of the pro athletes that rise through the Everett team they would tell you that there are 10 other guys on the Everett team that can compete with the big boys on the big league team in Seattle. Do you think that JR considered himself a big league player when he spent some time in the minor leagues or that a year before he made it to the big leagues he could still hit it out of the park on most big league pitchers. It is more about the stage that they are playing on then it is about the abilities of the pro athlete. KCBS is bigger stage with more teams, more exsposure and more money for the most part that is why it draws the bigger sponsors like it does. All that being said there is nothing wrong with what the PNWBA is and will become, I am a proud member of this organization and will continue to support it as I move forward. If we want to put ourselves on the same level as the KCBS we will need to transition ourselves from a organization ran exclusivly by volunteers to one that is professionally ran as a business. But that it another topic for another day.  |
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MADDOG
Ireland
789 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2012 : 12:52:03
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| Just to set the record straight, this Tacoma-area loyalist points out that the Everett Aqua Sox are only a "Short Season" Northwest League farm club of the Mariners while the Tacoma Rainiers are the Triple A PCL club in the system. That puts Everett 5 rungs down from Seattle while Tacoma is 1 rung below the MLB club. I cannot remember an Aqua Sox player ever advancing to the big show yet year in and year out upwards of half of the roster finishing the Mariners season started the year off in Tacoma. And by the way, in about 15 minutes the Mariners throw out the first pitch to begin their 2012 season in the cactus league! Better team this year but the league is tougher, too. Go M's!! (And now we return you to your regularly scheduled program, already in progress.) |
Pat "Maddog" Maddock PNWBA Secretary 2013-14 CBJ#200412 KCBS#60627 Webers, Traegers and a magic, translucent Thermapen MADDOG'S BBQ Don't try to teach a pig to sing. It will frustrate you, annoy the pig and delay the damned BBQ! |
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jonesyjm
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upnsmokin
USA
75 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2012 : 14:01:16
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i agree the stage is bigger and there is more money available at some events but the refference that the teams are like minor league is way off. any pnwba team can compete in a kcbs contest and be very competative. And what make a pro team anyway???? winning money? marketing sauces and rubs? putting on comp classes? going the the Jack and Royal? sounds like alot of the pnwba members to me. Just sayin! |
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Smokin on a modified Diamond Plate Fat 50, 4-22"WSM's,3-Treager 075, Caja China model 2 |
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JD McGee
USA
1444 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2012 : 18:28:46
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The only difference between us and any other bbq association is the number of members and some different judging criteria. Good bbq is good bbq wherever you cook. The majority of bbq teams are not pro...they are backyard enthusiasts. To me a pro is someone who relies solely on competition cooking for their income...very few do that for a living.
I do not consider KCBS to be the "major leagues" of bbq...they just happen to have the largest membership because of WHERE they are...not WHAT they are...LOCATION...LOCATION...LOCATION!
I consider our PNWBA cooks to be some of the best in the world...and I am very proud to be one of them! 
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steve6224
Canada
112 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2012 : 18:58:00
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upnsmokin
USA
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Posted - 03/02/2012 : 19:08:43
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| Well said JD! |
UPNSMOKIN Custom Smoked Meats Brett Schreyer
Smokin on a modified Diamond Plate Fat 50, 4-22"WSM's,3-Treager 075, Caja China model 2 |
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upnsmokin
USA
75 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2012 : 19:11:52
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| Well said JD! |
UPNSMOKIN Custom Smoked Meats Brett Schreyer
Smokin on a modified Diamond Plate Fat 50, 4-22"WSM's,3-Treager 075, Caja China model 2 |
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Prairie Smoke
Canada
151 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2012 : 10:16:17
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This is one of the most demeaning, condescending things I have read in a long time. "Caters to the BBQ hobbyist"?? Sounds like 80% of KCBS entrants to me. They are no different. It's just a very small percentage of the cook population that consider it more than a hobby (ie competing for profit) Do they have more people who consider themselves "professional pitmasters"? Well yeah. When compare an organization with 5000 teams competing in a season to an organization that has less than 250, that tends to be the outcome!
I am glad you appreciate where you got your start and I wish you luck as you move away from what you consider the minor leagues. Congratulations! But keep in mind you are already among a large group of people competing at the highest level of our profession. Your attitude is a slap in the face to all of them. <in my opinion> (obligatory smiley to remind myself and others that we are all in this for fun). Sorry for the rant, but I'm goint to submit it now.
quote: Originally posted by jonesyjm It is my opinion that PNWBA is predominantly an organization that caters to BBQ hobbyist for the most part, that is not to say that there are no pro teams in the PNWBA ranks or that the teams that are cooking within the PNWBA are not well skilled in the craft of BBQ. KCBS is set up more as a Pro BBQ tour even though there is a good majority of their members are casual cookers. With KCBS you will find a greater number of competitors that consider themselves professional pitmasters. So following this logic KCBS is the Pro Tour and PNWBA as well as other BBQ associations around the USA are the minor league system for KCBS Pro Tour. I got my start in PNWBA and I am very grateful to all the people within the organization that has helped me along the way. I am aspiring to be a professional BBQ Pitmaster and to compete at the highest level of our profession, because of this I will naturally gravitate to the larger KCBS events that I can make it to in order to improve my craft and compete with other professional BBQ pitmasters, if I were to only cook PNWBA events and stay within the PNW, then I really would not know how I stack up against the other world class pro teams that compete mostly within the KCBS BBQ association.
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The "EH" Team
Canada
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Posted - 03/05/2012 : 11:34:45
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Way too much politics in the BBQ realm these days. It's too bad & very sad.
It's also making it less desirable to go to competitions with the amount of crap coming out of peoples mouths.
Any given Sunday, ANYONE can win. I hope rookie teams win all season long and all these teams that think they are gonna be a Food Network star or get rich from BBQ; dont win a damn thing!
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